Jun 23, 2014

Whole Family Sees Teenage Girl Diapered

While I readily admit that it was entirely appropriate and totally justified and completely my fault that, at 13-years old, I had to spend several hours one day wearing nothing but a diaper and be seen by extended family like that (yes, topless and wearing nothing but a diaper), was it really necessary later that day for seemingly the whole extended family of my stepdad's sister's in-laws gathering around to watch my diaper get changed?

The reason for me being in a diaper to begin with was undeniably totally my fault. I had absolutely no one to blame but myself. The blame for my shame was mine - and mine alone.

But still, there I was - less than two months shy of turning 14-years old - sitting in the backseat of my stepdad's sister's minivan on a summer day in 1999, wedged between her two grinning and giggling younger boys . . . wearing nothing but a diaper!

I really didn't want to be with them that weekend, the summer before I started 8th grade. But my mom was away for the weekend and my stepdad had wanted to take my two brothers with him camping - and not have a teenage girl with them.

So I was shuffled off to spend the weekend with my stepdad's sister and her family. She and her husband had three young boys, two of school age (9 and 10-years old) and a third who was a toddler.

I had spend Friday night at their house and, I admit, it was my responsibility to be ready on time Saturday morning. Pamela's husband's family was having a big summer get together at his parents' house and I had to go along with them.

I had packed some changes of clothes for the weekend but none with me in the car (nor did anyone else, for that matter). We had a 3-hour plus drive to get where we were going on that warm summer day but we were going back the same night.

I wanted look dressed up but still be comfortable. I always was keenly aware there would most likely be at least some teenage boys there. So I wore a very short, very flirty, white backless halter dress. As it had a plunging neckline, I didn't wear a bra that day. I did wear a pair of white cotton panties (yes, I knew they'd show if I bent over so I knew I would have to be careful to avoid embarrassing myself, one reason I wore them instead of a thong). But, basically I looked, well... hot!



What I didn't anticipate was that not long after breakfast we were rushed out to the car without much time to spare because we were running late. On top of that, I had overslept so I had rushed to eat, then I guess I took too long trying to look my best, between showering and getting dressed and applying makeup and fixing my hair. But the one think I didn't do was allow myself time to use the bathroom before we left. I thought we had more time than we did. I had also helped myself to two tall glasses of fruit juice at breakfast.

It was already warm and I soon drank a large bottle of water in the car. But between what I had to drink at breakfast and the water, in less than an hour I was soon begging for us to stop at a rest area.

Just as we were getting to one, I just knew I wasn't going to make it. I started to wet my panties just as we got to the rest stop. Worried about wetting the car seat, I tucked my dress in between my legs as I winced uncomfortably, crossing my legs, as the boys along each side of me relished in my discomfort.

As we pulled off the highway to the rest stop I was pleading to Pamela's husband to "Hurry! Hurry!"

But as soon as I stepped out of the car, the dam broke. I had hiked my dress up high above my waist and Pamela, her husband and the boys watched in speechless amazement as pee gushed through my soaked panties, both onto the pavement, down my legs and on my heels for a good fifteen seconds or more. When the gusher finally stopped, the boys were already giggling, both Pamela and her husband grinning and me standing there, still holding my dress up way above my waist and fully exposing my panties, which were undoubtedly quite transparent.

Having no spare clothes at all with us, what Pamela insisted on was really the only viable alternative. I would have to strip, naked, right there at the rest stop. I surely couldn't wear those clothes for the rest of the trip. But if not, then what?

Then I found out what the answer would be. The boys' giggles turned to chuckling when Pamela asked one of them to reach behind their seat for the diaper bag!

Pamela then led me to the bathroom (fortunately, there were no other drivers there at the time). Once out of the view of her husband and the boys, she ordered me to strip off my clothes. As all I had on were the dress, panties and shoes, it didn't take long. There was no argument. I knew what was coming but also knew that Pamela was 100% correct. It didn't matter that I was 13-years old. I was going to be diapered - and justifiable so!

The bathroom was a single-occupy one. So there was no stall. Just a room with a toilet and a sink. Pamela pointed to the toilet and asked me if I needed to use it. Quite embarrassed already, I sure didn't need the additional humiliation of her watching me pee a little more, so I declined and said, "No, I don't." In truth, I could have probably peed a little more. But I didn't have a huge urge to, especially not after the downpour I had unleashed in front of everyone.

Once I was naked, Pamela used my dress to soak up most of the pee on me then pulled some baby wipes out of the bag and cleaned me up. As she wiped between my legs and had me turn around to wipe my bare bottom, I felt like I was about four, not thirteen!

My panties and my dress appeared done for the day and, worried about me having another accident since we still had several hours of driving, she rightfully pulled out one of the extra diapers she brought for her toddler. My pee-soaked panties and dress, along with my heels, were put into a plastic bag and soon stuffed into the back of the minivan. The only thing I now had on was a diaper. And one for a toddler at that, a nappy which left the upper half of my butt cracked exposed, that didn't quite cover all of my wispy pubic hair in the front and which was being barely held together on the sides by a couple of safety pins.

There was literally nothing else I could wear. I tried to keep my boobs covered with my hands to stop the boys from seeing me topless but that lasted until I was told to buckle my seatbelt. There were laughing from the moment their mom and I emerged from the bathroom. Naturally, right at that moment we came out of the bathroom, another car had pulled up and out jumped two teenage boys. I cringed as they stared at me for a moment before bursting out into laughter. I could swear I saw a camera flash from the car where in the backseat sat a teenage girl, laughing in hysterics.

I was hugely embarrassed and felt ashamed that I had peed myself and was now wearing nothing but a diaper, but it was the only practically solution other than Pamela's husband turning us around and driving back to their house.

So, yes at that point, I - AT 13-YEARS OLD - BELONGED IN A DIAPER.

But more embarrassment came later when we got stuck in traffic (traffic which we may not have got stuck into if not for the delay caused by my accident). We were going to pull off to one last rest stop but then I wet myself again, this time soaking the diaper, and then lying after I did so since there wasn't much a point in stopping after that.

When we got to our destination it was unavoidable that pretty much a number of guests who were milling about outside and came up to the minivan to greet us saw me wearing nothing but a diaper. But, even at this point, my shame for the day was just beginning.
It had been my choice to wear a backless dress, with no bra, that day. With my panties totally pee-soaked and my dress wet, too, and with no spare clothing whatsoever with us, me being diapered was the ONLY and COMPLETELY REASONABLE option.

So I completely concede the point that, despite being 13-years old at the time, there was NO OTHER CHOICE but for my stepdad's sister to change me into NOTHING BUT A DIAPER and for me to remain that way for the rest of the drive to our destination. It was embarrassing as hell, especially with me topless and sitting between her two giggling and grinning school-aged boys (who were about 8 and 9 at the time) in the back seat. But yet it was totally justifiable to have me sitting in the car wearing only a diaper given the circumstances.

I can't even fault the boys for teasing me. After all, I was a 13-year old girl just a handful of weeks away from entering 8th grade but who had badly peed herself - and was now wearing nothing but a diaper. How could anyone fault 9 and 10-year old boys from enjoying my shameful predicament?

I had no one to blame for my embarrassment and my shame but myself. Nor should I have even expected to avoid additional embarrassment once we arrived at our destination. Though we had encountered delays because of traffic, my wetting myself was as much a reason for our tardiness as anything else. So not being able to slip inside clad as I was without being noticed was again basically my fault too, no one else's.
If a lot of people hadn't been around outside, then sure it might have made sense to wait for someone to fetch a robe or a towel. But the longer I sat in the minivan, the doors open and me in just a diaper for everyone to see, the more it made sense when Pamela instructed me to get out of the car and come with her into the house. I naturally trusted that I'd soon be away from everyone to get cleaned up and dressed.

Instead, while I was carrying the bag with my pee-soaked panties and dress in my right hand and trying to cover my boobs with my left arm, Pamela reached up and grabbed by left hand and walked me over to some of her husband's relatives - and introduced me! Some ten minutes later, now inside the house, she was still being greeted by others and introducing me as I stood there totally exposed from my diaper up as I was repeatedly asked (and prodded by Pamela to answer) all the typical questions, "How old are you, Becky?" "What grade are you in, Becky?" "How come a big girl like you is wearing just a diaper, Becky?"

Nearly all my embarrassment up until that point that day (except for Pamela taking her time to introduce me to many guests while I stood wearing but only a diaper) was the result of my own actions - that is, peeing myself. Yes, I'll even concede the point it was not unreasonable to make me get out of the car and walk past everyone and into the house in just the diaper. But what happened next I felt was purposeful embarrassment by Pamela and my stepdad's sister-in-law (they had married siblings of my stepdad's).

NAKED ON FLOOR, HAVING MY DIAPER CHANGED IN FRONT OF GUESTS

That's right. Pamela began changing my diaper - in full view of smirking guests and with even her 9 and 10-year old boys sitting down on the floor beside me, getting quite an educational view of a naked teenage girl at my expense. And Pamela? She simply carried on conversations with everyone in the room as if I were a toddler having my diaper changed.

First, while Pamela was still holding my hand as if I were a small child as she and guests exchanged introductions, she matter-of-factly answered the questions about why I was wearing a diaper: "Becky had an accident in the car and there was nothing else clean for her to wear."

At that point, my stepdad's sister-in-law Nicole walked up, smirking at me.

One young girl standing nearby wondered, giggling, "Is her diaper wet?"

The answer to that question became clear to everyone when Pamela very nonchalantly pulled away the front of my diaper and answered, "Yes, it looks like Becky wet her diaper," giving me the tsk-tsk look as those around just smirked.

My stepdad's sister-in-law, Nicole, probably was just relishing that opportunity to embarrass me further - and did. So to add to my embarrassment, Nicole (who I felt did love to embarrass me) chimed in and said, "Becky's always having accidents." (So not true, I wanted to blurt out but kept quiet)

"She had to wear a diaper in first grade all year." (So not accurate with the "all" part, either, although for a time it seemed like that would end up being the case, if it were left up to my teacher.)

For years, Nicole had told that to people at family gatherings, often in front of me. She had also diapered me herself, including in front of her neighbor and her neighbor's children (who, adding to my shame, happened to be 2nd & 3rd graders at my school) when I was 7-years old and a handful of times after that. Now, unfortunately, she had a whole new and even more embarrassing story to humiliate me with in the future.

But at that moment, I was in a wet diaper. And what happens to children in wet diapers?

Nicole had that answer, when she quickly suggested, "Why don't we take Becky into the next room and change her diaper in there?"

"Change her diaper?" Is that what she just said, I repeated in my mind? Could that also mean I was going to be KEPT in a diaper? I glanced into the room and saw that there were several adults and a number of school age kids younger than me in there. True, there were fewer people in the adjacent room than the dozen or so around me in the entry way. But, I was 13-years old at the time! I shouldn't even BE in a diaper, let alone be changed into a new one in front of mostly total strangers and kids much younger than me.

On the other hand, it was undeniable that I had peed myself, not once, but TWICE in the past several hours. So the fact I had been put in a diaper was totally reasonable. I just didn't think that I needed to remain in one now that I had access to a bathroom instead of being stuck in a minivan on the highway without recourse.

The distress must have shown on my face.

But Pamela merely nodded, confirming my fears, adding: "At least you'll be in a clean diaper, Becky, just until we get your dress washed and dried out."

But I knew that could take hours! And in the meantime everyone would see me in a diaper.

The two women then lead me into the next room and I cringed in shame as my stepdad's two nephews (who, though sitting on each side of me in the car hadn't at least seen me put into the diaper) and even a couple of adults followed us in, adding to the compliment of people already in that room. I noticed an older teenager girl (around 17 or 18-years old) smirking and waving with her hand and moments later a cute, teenage boy about the same age was standing next to her. One of the younger children in the room likewise ran out to bring back a sibling or a cousin. It was basically standing room only.

My stepdad's sister then pulled out her baby blanket and a diaper from her baby bag (her husband was taking care of their toddler at that point) and she spread the baby blanket on the floor and instructed me to lay on it. I could see that everyone was looking in my direction, a few trying to be discreet about it but certainly not the teenagers or the kids or the adults sitting on a couch a few feet from me.

Giggles from the kids in the room and snickering from some of the adults too quickly followed as my wet diaper slipped down, exposing me to everyone. I started bawling like a baby.



My wet diaper was then removed completely and put into a plastic bag. I was now totally bare. I wish I didn't glance around, because all I saw were smirks and snickering on the faces of those around me, most of whom had their eyes riveted on my most private area or on my boobs or glancing up and down at both.

At that point, another guest walked in and asked for Pamela, who excused herself for several minutes. During that time Nicole remained there, standing over and smirking down at me. I was actually even too embarrassed to even attempt to cover my nudity. What really would have been the point? I felt like a pre-school girl laying there instead of a soon-to-be 8th grader.

Nicole then ask me, "So how many times did you pee yourself today, Becky?"

I whispered, "Twice."

But she scolded me, "Speak up. I didn't hear you."

I answered again, but perhaps too loudly, "I peed myself twice."

That brought some giggling and snickers from those in the room. I overheard the older teenage girl say something to her brother or boyfriend, something like, "Hear that? What a baby. She DOES belong in a diaper."

I then thought I heard the whirl of a camera probably being held by the teenage girl followed by a few chuckles from teenage boy with her. But what did it matter? There had already plenty of photo-taking when everyone was greeting everyone earlier. (Pamela did nothing to discourage the picture-taking. At one point earlier, she even made me face the cameras of several of her husband's relatives, with her two grinning young boys on each side of me.)

When Pamela returned, she began spreading and lifting my legs, first one at a time, then both up high to wipe my bottom too, cleaning me off with baby wipes and got a clean diaper out of her bag.

Nicole then said, "Once Becky's in her clean diaper she can go outside and join the other children."

OMG! All I could think of was how more embarrassing the day was going to get and now hoping that there were NOT any more cute teenage boys among the guests.

But, thankfully, at that point, a female guest walked into the room and said, "Found some clothes for the girl who wet her..."

She stopped when she saw me on the floor, ready to be wiped, smirked and completed her sentence, "...diaper." She obviously was expecting to see a much younger girl, not a teenager.

The "clothes" consisted of was a pair of short shorts and a t-shirt, a change of clothes she had brought for her daughter, but beggars can't be choosers.

Nicole immediately objected: "I really think Becky should stay in her diaper. She'll probably just have another accident anyway. We're just going to have to change her again."

Pamela paused and seemed to briefly consider Nicole's suggestion but ultimately didn't agree and instructed me to stand up. When I did so, she picked up the baby blanket off the floor and told me to wrap it around myself. It was just a small one, so for the most part I could only conceal my frontal nudity and let my bottom remain exposed. When we left the room it, I had to pass a smirking crowd that had gathered near the doorway.

She then walked me through the house past a number of other guests and upstairs to a bathroom, where I was finally allowed to be alone in my shame. The shorts the female guest had given me to wear were tight, and the t-shirt too, but it was better than wearing a diaper. But still, my midriff was bare and my boobs were flattened by the tight fabric. I couldn't fasten the top button of the shorts, which barely covered my mound and left the top of my butt crack showing in the back. I certainly didn't look my age.

Hours later I was finally in my dress (with my panties on underneath, both washed and dried). She at least let me manage changing into my clothes by myself in a bedroom. But the damage to my reputation, granted among people who for the most part I wouldn't see again, was complete.

The rest of the day went without me having any accident, sort of. But the embarrassment leveled at me wasn't about to stop just yet.

Pamela's toddler was acting up and they wanted to leave a little earlier than expected. But it was then when I needed to go to the bathroom. Unfortunately, although the house had four bathrooms, they were all occupied. A few minutes passed, then five, then ten. I was starting to get desperate and it showed, while Pamela was getting impatient.

Finally, one of the bathrooms became available and I dashed in so fast I didn't even bother to lock the door. I had just made it.

Since they lived not far from each other, Nicole at some point when I was in the bathroom said to Pamela and her husband to go ahead and take the boys home; that she and her husband would drive me to Pamela's on their way home a few hours later and drop me off.

About five or ten minutes later when I was about ready to get off the toilet, a young boy opened the door and saw me sitting there. He quickly left but didn't close the door tightly and it soon swung completely open. Understandably embarrassed, I made a quick wipe, pulled up my panties and pulled my dress back down. But I also still felt the urge to pee some more. But just then, Nicole walked by the door and called to me.

I was soon back in the room where I had been shamed earlier. Nicole explained, loud enough for anyone in earshot to hear, that she didn't want me having any accidents in their new car and that Pamela had left a few extra diapers with her. I was to be in diapers on the way home.

This time I protested, saying I didn't need to be in a diaper. But she just pointed to the floor, where she had laid down a towel. I knew it was an argument I would not win and so I complied.

A few giggling younger kids soon gathered around to watch and Nicole did not discourage them from doing so. On the floor besides me was a naked boy of about five, his mom in the process of changing his diaper before they left to go home. In a few moments I knew I would be nearly as naked as that boy, my only saving modesty would be that my dress, though raised up, at least still covered my boobs.

But only for a moment. Nicole soon reached down and slipped my dress off over my head, saying "No sense in getting your dress all wet again if you have another accident in the car."

She then slipped it on a hanger and laid it across the back of a chair next to a few bags that were destined to go into her car on the way home.

The mom attending to the boy next to me smirked and said to Nicole, "So, she has accidents in the car on long rides, too?"

Nicole responded, "Always! She had two just today. Isn't that right, Becky?"

Totally humiliated, I could only nod and meekly say "Uh huh," to the snickers of the teenage girl and boy who were once nearby again nearby. I didn't realize it until days later but when I acknowledged having had two accidents in the car that day, they might have also took it as me agreeing that I "always" had accidents on long car rides, which wasn't true.

As their chit-chat continued Nicole then slide my panties down and I was now as naked as the 5-year old boy being diapered alongside me. Then she even berating me a little for not wiping better and then doing the whole leg-lift-spread-wipe thing (to more snickers of the two teenagers).

Pamela, her husband, their baby and their two older boys were about to leave but as the boys' parents started chit-chatting with some other adults, the 9 and 10-year old boys plopped themselves down along side me.

Pamela's mother-in-law then entered the room and asked Nicole, "Are you leaving? I want you to take some of this food home."

Nicole stopped attending to me for a moment to answer, "Oh, no. Not for another hour or so."

An hour? She was going to leave me in just a diaper for an hour? I got so nervous, I just couldn't help it. I involuntarily squirted out some pee, the boys roaring in laughter, with the others in the room trying to contain their loud snickering and giggling.

Nicole berated me, told her mother-in-law, "See? She can't control herself."

Then turning to me, she said, "You're going to stay in a diaper until you're back with Pamela and if she's smart, she'll keep you in one the rest of the weekend."

She then proceed to wipe me and clean me up. Within another minute or two, a clean diaper was fastened about me and Nicole had me stand up. Turning me away from the hallway where some guests were saying their good-byes (but unfortunately towards the now diaper-clad young boy, his mom and the two older teenagers), she then began brushing my hair before putting it back in their pig tails. I didn't even bother covering my boobs, but merely closed my eyes in shame.

At this point, Pamela and her family left, but not before her two boys smirked and grinned ear to ear as they each gave me a hug, with Pamela insisting on the two of them standing on each side of me holding my hands for a photo op, my toplessness and being clad in only a diaper being preserved in time.

Nicole then instructed me to go sit in the other room with the "rest of the children", which I did, having to walk past several snickering guests. Except for a pre-school boy, who like me was wearing just a diaper, all the seven or eight children in the room were fully dressed, aged between about three and eleven. They were all quite amused at the sight of a girl old enough to be babysitting them wearing nothing but a diaper, standing there topless facing them with my hands at my side as Nicole spoke to me. She then introduced me to each one of them.

One of the boys, who was about 11, asked her, "Why is she wearing a diaper?"

Nicole humiliated me by saying, "Because Becky is always wetting herself. She even had two accidents just in the car today," inciting giggles all around me.

"Isn't that right, Becky?"

After told to speak up with my answer, I blurted out, "Yes, that's right," causing all the kids to laugh at me.

Nicole then instructed me to sit on the floor with them so there I sat there, trying my best to keep my boobs covered and avoid eye contact with their smirking faces, making as little conversation with the other kids as possible. Periodically, departing guests came into the room to say good-bye, not particularly to me, but to the group of us "children."

About fifty minutes after having been put in the diaper, Nicole came in with my dress, said we would be leaving soon and that I should put on my dress since the evening had a bit of a chill in the air now and she didn't want me to catch cold outside or in the car. But not before she told me to laydown on my back on the carpet so she could check my diaper, which she did so by unpinning it and pulling it completely away from my body at both sides in front of the giggling kids who gathered around me. She also lifted my legs up high to check my bottom too before saying, "Good girl, Becky. No accidents - for a change." But in any case, I pretty much felt like a girl who was otherwise still being potty-trained at that point.

Nicole then re-fastened my diaper, had me stand up and then she slipped my dress on over my head, leaving me with the smirking children who had just seen me totally denuded.

As it was Nicole ended up chit-chatting with other guests and by the time she and her husband were finally ready to leave over thirty more minutes had passed. She then called me over to her where she was sitting with a couple of guests and had me lift my dress above my waist so she could check my diaper - again! As I stood there, she unfastened my diaper and pulled it down to my knees. I heard snickering from behind me as well as seeing the grins on the guests I was facing before, their eyes focused downward, before they looked up to meet my eyes, before I faced away from them in shame. Satisfied, Nicole told me we'd be leaving in about ten minutes. Without telling her, I quickly found a bathroom and peed a little. I didn't want any accidents in her car.

It was bad enough that Nicole's two teenage sons had seen my stepdad pull down my panties to prepare to spank me (before being called away to do something else, sparing me the spanking) just several weeks earlier at a 4th of July family barbeque. The only thing more humiliating than that would be if her sons (who were several years older than me) saw her changing my diaper (the boys having been at some summer sports event and weren't with us that day, but for all I knew could be back at Nicole's house that evening). I was blushing just at the thought that they would soon learn what had happened to me that day as it was.

As it turned out I had no accidents in the car, they dropped me off at Pamela's house and from that point on I assumed I'd be on my own to get ready for bed. That is until I was told I would need to sleep with the diaper on me. Pamela, understandably from her point of view, didn't want me wetting the bed given the day's events. After being asked, I even reluctantly said I understood why it was necessary.

But what I didn't expect was a "diaper check" before I was to head upstairs to bed. Assuming that I had probably wet myself in the car, Pamela even instructed me to lay down on the baby blanket she laid down on the floor for a diaper changing - right in the smack center of the living room with her husband and two boys sitting there, her having already put the baby to bed.

Within moments I was denuded again, first my dress then, after I laid down, the safety pins of the nappy were unfastened. By this point after all that had transpired throughout the day, I made no effort to cover my boobs despite the intense embarrassment I felt.

"Good girl, Becky," she announced to everyone, as the giggling boys stood there looking down at me. "No accidents this time."

After re-fastening my diaper I then had to stand up, say goodnight and hug everyone before heading to bed.

I vowed that I'd get out of that stupid diaper as fast as I could in the morning. Unfortunately, being overly tired I never heard the alarm on Sunday morning and was awakened instead by Pamela who, after pulling off the covers, told me to come downstairs for breakfast. As I was - that is in just the diaper which she checked to see if it was wet. It wasn't.

Regardless, it was still very difficult to look her husband and two young boys in the eye while sitting there at the table wearing nothing but a diaper. After breakfast, I was on my own to wash up and get dressed. At least Pamela didn't keep me in a diaper during the daytime as well as Nicole had suggested.

But that night and the next, I was put back in a diaper several hours before bedtime. That turned out to be problematic (not to mention embarrassing) on Sunday night when unexpected company showed up just after I was put in the nappy.

Finally, by Tuesday evening I was back home. I was too ashamed to say anything to my mom or stepdad, and most especially to my two brothers.

Yet as embarrassing as it all was, I do realize and concede that Pamela was within her rights to do what she did, acting in loco parentis. I don't think she needed to cause me further embarrassment once we inside at her in-laws house. But she acted perfectly reasonable by putting me in a diaper earlier for the rest of the drive there. I'll even concede it was perfectly reasonably that I had to get out of the minivan topless, exposed and wearing nothing but a diaper in full view of those around until we were inside the house. All that embarrassment and shame, up to that point, was the cause of me peeing myself. It was no one else's fault by mine.

It's what happened after that which I don't think was fair: Pamela introducing me to so many people while I stood there topless wearing nothing but a diaper; being changed out of my wet diaper, laying naked on top of a baby blanket on the floor, being wiped, as people watched. Being put back in a diaper for the ride back home, again with people watching.

Incredibly, in talking to parents who have diapered older children, some who even believe in using the diaper as a disciplinary tool, my humiliation would have lasted even longer and would have been worse than it was. Some even said that ANY child in diapers should have the bathroom made off-limits to them, meaning that's what the diaper is for! OMG! And, if so, that would have meant multiple diaper changes throughout the day.

Some asked were there other kids in diapers that day and how they were changed. Yes, a few toddlers were, like Pamela's youngest son. There was also a girl and a boy who were around 5 or 6 years of age (7 at most), the girl was the oldest of the two, each wearing only a diaper. They, like the toddlers, were all changed as needed throughout the day in the manner I was, on a baby blanket on the floor in a room off the entry way. (Probably a dozen or more other kids from that age to around mine were all fully clothed.)

Perhaps those who asked wanted to know if I was being singled out. Personally, I don't think even a pre-school 4 or 5-year old should be running around in front of extended family and guests in just a diaper. But if a boy of that age is having accidents and his parents (or those acting in loco parentis) are OK with it, then fairness dictates so should a girl of that age be so scantily attired in nothing but a diaper if she is having accidents and her parents (or those acting in loco parentis) are OK with it, too.

My queasiness in reluctantly conceding that it's OK, even if I don't think they should, for parents (or those acting in loco parentis) making a 5-year old girl be dressed before extended family in nothing but a diaper and for her diaper to be changed openly in front of anyone who feels like watching is what to do about, for example, her 7-year old sibling or cousin? It really isn't that much of a leap in years. Shouldn't fairness dictate that if the 7-year old had an accident that she or he should be put in nothing but a diaper as well and changed out in the open, too? Saying a 7-year old shouldn't be just because the child is but two or less years older than the 5-year old just doesn't seem a good enough reason to give the 7-year old more concern for her or his modesty. I would prefer both be clothed over their diapers and changed in private. But that is no reason to treat each child differently.

But, if it is OK for a 7-year old, some might ask the question then why not subject a 13-year old, like me at the time, to being changed in front of guests and wear only a diaper in front of them as well? The 7-year old and I would both be of school age, yet both having had accidents. Where does one draw the line? Perhaps that's why I feel a 4 and 5-year olds shouldn't be wearing only a diaper and be changed in front of everyone. Because I know if I concede that point I'm admitting it would also be OK for a 7-year old school child to be in only a diaper. And with that I might as well admit then that my situation on that day back in 1999 was no different and that there was nothing wrong in putting me in just a diaper and changing me openly in front of guests in the same embarrassing fashion as the 5-year old boy.

For those of you who are parents and believe in making older children wear diapers after having a mere accident, how would you have dealt with the situation from the time I was about to get out of the car? Made me walk past guests like that? Quickly got me some normal clothes to put on or just a small t-shirt to cover my boobs? Kept me in just a diaper for the rest of the day? If so, would I at least be able to use the bathroom? Regardless, should I have been changed privately or openly?

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  1. You said it best yourself: ''I - AT 13-YEARS OLD - BELONGED IN A DIAPER."

    If you belonged in a diaper in the morning, then you also belonging in a diaper in the afternoon and you also belonged in a diaper in the evening, too. Little kids who haven't been potty-trained don't get to choose when they have to wear a diaper or not? So why should a girl who even admits she belonged in one get to choose either?

    I'm sure that 5-7 year old boy wearing only a diaper was probably capable of going to the bathroom himself. But the probable reason he was in a diaper was because he was not making it to the bathroom on time or unable to hold it for a short time until he could. In other words, no different than you. So if the boy had to use a diaper throughout that day, why not you?

    And kids who are in diapers have no right to privacy. So it would be also been only fair for you to get diaper changes throughout the day just like the other kids.

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    1. Jeff, I understand from a fairness standpoint that if I was in a diaper all day then I should have had as much or as little privacy when it came time for that diaper to be changed as the young boy had.

      My problem with what you're saying is that I don't think it's fair to equate me peeing myself (OK, two in my case) during a long car drive to that boy who for whatever reason was in nothing but a diaper the whole day. For all I know he may have had bladder issues. (I also think he should have been changed in private.)

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  2. I agree with the first comment. Since Becky needed to be in diapers in the car (and she even agrees with that) that's reason enough to keep her in diapers the rest of the day. It doesn't matter that she's 13.

    Maybe I might give her T shirt to cover her boobs if she had big ones. But if her boobs weren't that developed or only average for that age then I certainly wouldn't even bother. From the illustration she posted of herself, I'd say diaper only.

    Kids wearing diapers don't use the bathroom. They use their diaper. If she were my daughter I'd have no problem with changing her every time as needed no matter who was around. If you need to be in a diaper, you get the privacy of a baby. Meaning: none.

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    1. Yes, Katie. I completely agree with you that I DID NEED to be in a diaper during the rest of the car ride. I couldn't very well sit there in a pee-soaked pair of panties, could I? Diapers were the ONLY clothing option for me given the circumstances. That's why I think it was appropriate.

      But I strongly object to the idea that because I had two accidents in the car that I needed to be kept in just a diaper for the rest of the day as you suggest. Not to mention having to USE the diaper the whole day as you suggested. I was already ashamed as it was and that when it was removed it was wet from my second accident in the car. (Thankfully, I escaped the added shame of being re-diapered at that point.)

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    2. You couldn't hold your pee for the first time. That was bad enough. But twice?

      Did your step-aunt and her husband purposely pass rest stops or ask everyone if they needed to go? If they asked and you said no, then you should have been able to "hold it" until the next rest stop, or the next one after that.

      Kids that can't belong in diapers. That's you, Becky. That you couldn't hold your pee between stops is evidence enough that you probably would have an accident in the house too. And since your step-aunt knew you had a history of wetting yourself, that's why you belonged in diapers for the whole day.

      Kids in diapers don't use the bathroom. They use their diapers. Yes, I would have re-diapered you when we got there and checked you every half-hour. And it's easier when other clothing isn't in the way.

      Yes, as needed you'd have been re-diapered on the floor just like the other little kids in diapers.

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    3. Hi, Katie,

      No, of course Pamela and her husband didn't purposely pass by rest stops. Approaching each one, we were all asked if anyone needed to go. It's just that twice that day, admittedly partly because of my fault not having used the bathroom before we left the house and then drinking more water in the car and partly because the second time we got stuck in a traffic jam, I couldn't hold it between rest stops.

      Yes, I know if I was in diapers at the house all day, they'd have to be checked regularly and changed as needed. I'll concede that.

      But still, even if that, I don't see why that should prohibit me from using the bathroom or being changed in private. Or wearing some clothes covering the diaper. However, I know what I said that if other kids 5+ years and of school age were in just a diaper then it would have made it fair to keep me in just a diaper, too.

      And since there were a couple kids in that 5-7 years range in just a diaper, including a girl, then the standard would have been fair to apply to me as well. I'll concede that, too. As their parents thought it was fair for them to be wearing only a diaper, then if I needed to be in a diaper it would have been fair for me to be ONLY in a diaper too and changed just like they were. I'll even go far as to concede that. But only because of FAIRNESS. If I needed to be in a diaper like those 5-7 year olds and because they wore ONLY a diaper and were checked and changed in front of everyone, then I didn't deserve any more consideration for privacy then they did.

      But only if it was NECESSARY that I be made to wear a diaper. That's what I dispute.

      Just because I had peed myself two times in the car that day doesn't mean I would have had an accident at the house.

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    4. Becky, you didn't just pee yourself once. You peed yourself twice. In the car, despite the frequent availability of rest stops.

      You even admitted you nearly had an accident in the house because you had to wait for a bathroom. Whatever the problem, that day you were having accidents. That meant you belonged in a diaper.

      When you got diapered at school, you said, "my first grade teacher acted correctly in diapering me . . . when I had an accident... my teacher was acting correctly in cleaning me up and diapering me on those days."

      Your teacher didn't give you a clean pair of panties. She put a diaper on you. And you stayed in a diaper the whole time you were at school if I understand what you said correctly you got changed at school when you wet your diaper. Yes, you had other clothes on, but you even got changed with others present and the need for a diapered child to be in clothes is hardly more important when at a relatives home and only family or family friends are around than at school.

      Looks like you are trying to apply double standards for yourself. One at age 7. One at age 13.

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    5. Another thing, your step aunts knew you had a history of having accidents.

      That, plus with you having not one but two accidents in the car that day, makes it entirely reasonable to assume you may have another accidents (just like your teacher might have assumed and therefore made you stay in diapers for not just one day but weeks).

      You didn't like it but you did say your teacher acted correctly by putting you in a diaper. So why do you dispute what your step aunts wanted to do was any different?

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  3. First of all, shame on you for wearing such a revealing outfit at 13.

    Yes, you should have stayed in diapers for the whole day and been changed as needed. Kids in diapers usually get changed with others watching or assisting. Why should the inconvenienced adult have to excuse themselves to take care of your wet or dirty diaper? So I see no problem with how your step aunts changed you.

    If you had worn a bra that day with a more modest dress, I'd have let you keep it on besides the diaper. But it was your irresponsible choice not to wear a bra with that revealing dress. So I see no reason that you should have been given anything to wear but a diaper.

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    1. Pamela never objected to how I was dressed. If she disapproved, she didn't tell me. Nor do I see any problem with being dressed as I had intended. So the dress was short. Big deal.

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  4. Becky, I'm sorry to say I agree that you needed to be diapered for the car ride. You acknowledged that. There should have been no real need for you to remain in diapers at the family event. But since your panties were pee-soaked you'd have to have worn a diaper until they were washed. However I'm sure there must have been a shirt or jacket you could have borrowed. Everyone would still know and see you in a diaper but at least your tits would have been covered.

    It also wouldn't have killed anyone to have changed your diaper in a bedroom or at least off in the corner of a less crowded room.

    Sophia, if you had an accident does that mean you should be diapered and remove your bra? What the hell does a bra have to do with a girl peeing or pooping herself?

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    1. Thank you, Keith. I also don't see why it's such a big deal for parents or guardians to simply change a child's diaper in privacy. It sure would have been a lot less embarrassing for me.

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  5. There is no way a 13 year old girl should be exposed humiliated like that. Having said that, I would have loved to have been one of those boys.

    I remember as a boy seeing my girl cousin, who was 3 years older than me, get her panties taken down and spanked with her dad's belt a half a dozen times over a period of a 2-3 years. While it was a wonderful experience for me, and quite the anatomy lesson, I realized as we aged, and her relationship with her dad deteriorated, how traumatic it was for her.

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    1. Thanks, Eli. As I've said, I get it was appropriate to diaper me for the rest of the car ride. It's what happened at Pamela's in-laws house that was way more shameful.

      Hope you have apologized to your cousin for causing her additional embarrassment by remaining nearby as she was spanked on her bare bottom. If you haven't, don't just assume she would rather forget about it.

      If you haven't because you're too reluctant to talk to her about it, then write her a card (flowers would be nice too).

      It helped ease some of my shame when some of the boys who saw me spanked said they later felt bad about teasing me at the time.

      But the ones who didn't? I often wonder what they thought and even think now. Do they think of me in inappropriate ways, that they are just "happy to be in the right place at the right time," or feel sorry their presence added to my shame? I would certainly tell them that my embarrassment wasn't their fault; it was my stepdad's. I would tell them it is simply normal for a young boy to want to sit there and see an older teenager girl undressed and spanked.

      But even with a decade plus past, I wouldn't mind receiving an apology or a sweet note from one of those now grown boys saying he was sorry he teased me. I don't know about your cousin, but I'd certainly reply or converse with them about it, even if my face got redder by the minute if he decided to go into more details in reminiscing than I might have wanted.

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    2. Hi Becky,

      That is actually not a bad idea. I think I will find a way to reach out to her and see how she responds. She IS married so I will have to be discreet, I don't know if she shared this with her husband. Would you?

      I do have to mention that she saw me spanked a few times, also. However, never after age 11 and certainly not in the throes of puberty, with intimate parts exposed, like she was. My father and my uncles (my dad's two brothers) had a total of 8 girls and 4 boys and never worried about modesty at spanking time. But only the girls got spanked as teens. At the time, I thought that was a wonderful situation. After seeing how Diane (my cousin) was so humiliated, I'm not so sure anymore.

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    3. Hi, Eli. Since she's married, that probably would make it much more awkward for her to discuss. Perhaps you could (perhaps in mixed company) share some news story about a state or school district that is doing away with corporal punishment.

      If you ever saw another girl spanked, perhaps some classmate, then you could add something like, "I still remember in 4th grade seeing Alicia spanked by her mom at a birthday party we were both attending for a classmate. I just happened to walk into the parlor room where she and her mom were, her mom coming early to pick her up. When I walked in Alicia was arguing about not wanting to go home early and her mom pulled her shorts and panties down right there and spanked her. She didn't even care I could see her daughter's private areas. For years all I could think about was how lucky I was that day to walk in at the right moment and would smirk at her all the time at school just to make her embarrassed. Now I feel bad about it, realizing how humiliated she must have been. And I only added to it."

      Then (if it's your opinion) state how much you abhor corporal punishment and see if she comments (if at all). If she doesn't, then maybe just leave it be.

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  6. Hi Becky,

    Pretty good advice. I will have to consider the best approach. I have several memories to choose from.

    By the way. Just curious. Where do you find these wonderful drawings? Are you the artist?

    Eli

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  7. Hi, Eli. Good luck. Yes, they are software-assisted illustrations of myself.

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  8. Beat advice you have every given Becky:
    "Hope you have apologized to your cousin for causing her additional embarrassment by remaining nearby as she was spanked on her bare bottom. If you haven't, don't just assume she would rather forget about it.

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  9. Sorry to hear what you went through my dear. Your relatives were wrong. They should not have put you in a diaper at all. I get why you think you needed to be in one in the car. But I wouldn't have diapered you, even if it meant you having to remain naked until we drove around and found a store to buy you some clothes.

    That was total disrespectful of you as a child to be made to walk into the house in front of extended family and strangers wearing only a diaper, and a wet one at that!

    Accidents are no reason to humiliate a child like that.

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  10. Hi Becky,

    Thanks for sharing! Do you remember what kind/brand of diapers Pamela put you in? Were they Pampers, Huggies, Luvs, etc.? Did you have to wear diapers any other times growing up (besides when forced to by your first grade teacher)? If so, did you ever wear them for longer than a day? Were you ever "babied" because of the diapers? Hope to hear from you!

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    1. I have no idea the brand. All I know is that I felt so very ashamed everyone seeing me in them. They were small, she used some safety pins to keep the sides attached and they left a lot of my bottom exposed.

      Other than the year I was in first grade and was diapered regularly for several weeks and then only occasionally after that if I had an accident, I didn't have to wear diapers.

      "Babied?" Not totally sure what you meant. Do you mean teasing? Yes, I was teased at school mercilessly. If you mean treated like a baby? Well, I was in diapers so that made me feel I was being treated like a baby.

      Besides me being diapered when I was in first grade, I was also diapered by my stepdad's sister-in-law Nicole a number of times throughout my school years.

      And of course there was the day I described above (which was one of the few remaining times I was made to wear a diaper).

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  11. By being "babied," I meant being changed in public, wearing babyish clothes, using a bottle or pacifier, etc. Why did Nicole diaper you several times? How old were you when she diapered you? What was the longest she had you stay in diapers for?

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  12. No, neither Nicole or Pamela did that to me. Although I suspect Nicole would not have had a problem changing me in public if the need arose. Besides, from the shame standpoint, I wasn't in "public" that day at Pamela's in-law's house. Yet dozens of people, including many who I had never before met, saw me in diapers and/or saw me changed.

    Nicole changed my diaper several times when I was 7 and in first grade when I was picked up by her a few times after school. Having already been in a diaper those days at school under my uniform skirt, I had no panties on. I was in the diaper until my stepdad picked me up and we got home. It would be hours.

    I otherwise was fully re-dressed after being changed. But I was also fully undressed by her when she changed me. There was no consideration for my modesty. I even was undressed and changed in full view of her visiting neighbors, which included her neighbor's children (who, adding to my shame, happened to be 2nd & 3rd graders at my school).

    When I was about 11, she made me wear a diaper on a several hour car trip after she asked me if I had been having any accidents recently. I erred in honestly answering that I had one the week earlier when my younger brother wouldn't stop tickling me and made me pee myself. I sat, embarrassed, in a diaper and a t-shirt, with her two younger daughters on each side of me in the car, until we got to our destination. There, at a lake, I was allowed to get into a one-piece swimsuit (which came off when it was time to go home, replaced again by the diaper and t-shirt). Having to stay over night when we got back to her house, I got changed - and she made me stay in the diaper until I went home the next morning. Thankfully, her husband and her boys had already gotten to the lake the day before and stayed longer to camp out. So they didn't see me in the diaper or getting changed.

    About two months before the incident in this blog post, I had wet myself after a long wait for a roller coaster ride at an amusement park. I tried to hide the fact from her, but she saw my shorts were all wet. (That meant panties and shorts ended up coming off. She would toss them, so all I had for the rest of the day was a long t-shirt I had to buy). Although she had no diapers with her, I got diapered by her as soon as we got back to her house. I didn't have a change of clothes, so I stayed in just the diaper and t-shirt. Her daughters and I were later playing a board game that night when we were having so much fun, I started laughing uncontrollably at one point and peed myself.

    Nicole changed me right then and I wasn't laughing anymore. This was just before bedtime and I remained in the diaper throughout the night until I went home the following morning. I was embarrassed but, again, fortunately her husband and the boys were out of town, so it wasn't that big a deal.

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    1. I love the stories of you being shamed by being forced to wear and use diapers, so please continue to share them!

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    2. Becky, how come you didn't answer when I asked you to confirm if your first grade teacher was correct in diapering you?

      Now I see that your stepfather's sister-in-law diapered you on more than one occasion since you had those frequent accidents, including just two months prior to the day you're complaining about.

      Looks pretty clear that you belonged in diapers that day.

      Your excuse that your accidents were limited to the long car rides that doesn't hold up.

      Let me ask you this. Since you did wet yourself twice in the car on the way there, was there any reason to believe the same thing couldn't happen on the way home (stuck in a traffic jam, for example)? I know you said you didn't have an accident. Just asking if you can honestly say without a doubt that you wouldn't have wet yourself on the way home.

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    3. Katie, I didn't like it but I can't say my teacher shouldn't have diapered me. My stupid stepdad had given her permission and I couldn't sit there in class in wet panties all day. So the simple answer is that, yes, she was correct in diapering me. But if she had let me use the bathroom when I needed to there would have been no accidents to begin with.

      I didn't have any accidents on the way home that night. Of course I can't say "without a doubt" that I wouldn't have wet myself. But the fact is that I didn't.

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    4. I still remember to this day when I was in 3rd grade noticing a girl named Cheryl with her hand up trying to get the teacher's attention. For some reason she was afraid to speak out to get the teacher's attention.

      Soon there was a puddle under her desk and she was crying uncontrollably. I felt so bad for her.

      The teacher was very understanding, but I found out a couple of days later that her parents were not and she got a good spanking from her dad with her panties pulled down. Her older brother let everyone know about it, the little bastard. I tried to be extra nice to Cheryl from then on as she and I went through school together and graduated from high school in the same class.

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    5. Having been put in diapers in first grade after having had a stretch when I was having frequent accidents I can certainly sympathize with that girl's misfortune.

      My older brother knew, too. And of course I got teased a little by him, but that was nothing compared to the teasing by many of my classmates.

      But to be spanked just because of an accident? That's child abuse. It's too bad the girl didn't report her father to her teacher.

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    6. Unfortunately, Becky. This was in, since we were in 3rd grade, 1960. No one back then would have considered this abuse. A few years later a friend told me that his sister used to get belt spankings in front of the family on her bare behind for wetting the bed and I'm betting it was a pretty common reaction from parents back then. We are very far ahead of where we were in understanding things like this now. But the pendulum may have swung too far the other way since so many kids have no respect for their parents or teachers or any authority figure now. I hope we can strike the proper balance someday.

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  13. Becky, forgive me but you are avoiding the issue. That is, that you belonged in a diaper that whole day.

    The fact is you were laying there on the floor next to a young boy being diapered for a ride home. Maybe his parents were worried he would have an accident in the car on the way home.

    But you in fact did already have two accidents in the car that morning. If anything maybe you had more of a reason to be in diapers all day than that little boy!

    You said in your post that if a parent thinks a 5 year old needs to be in diapers, that there "really isn't that much of a leap in years" to make a 7 year old wear diapers too if needed. And you added, "if it is OK for a 7-year old, then why not subject a 13-year old, like me at the time, to being changed in front of guests as well?"

    Becky, by your own reasoning you certainly deserved to be in a diaper that day and get changed in the same manner that young boy did.



    And you earlier indicated that you didn't deserve any more consideration whether or not to be made to wear a diaper than a 5 year old

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  14. Katie, what I said was, "Personally, I don't think even a pre-school 4 or 5-year old should be running around in front of extended family and guests in just a diaper."

    Yes, it was reasonable and proper that I was diapered for the rest of the car ride to our destination. It didn't matter that I was 13 at the time. Nor did it matter that the only thing I had on was a diaper or that I had to sit wearing nothing but a diaper between two giggling, fully dressed boys who were both several years younger than me. Diapering me was the correct thing to do given the circumstances and lack of any available other clothing.

    Nor am I arguing that the boy in the evening should have been diapered but not me.

    I just think that the boy should have at least deserved the dignity to been diapered in private.

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  15. Becky, you are being disingenuous.

    This is what you said:

    "I don't think even a pre-school 4 or 5-year old should be running around in front of extended family and guests in just a diaper. But if a boy of that age is having accidents and his parents (or those acting in loco parentis) are OK with it, then fairness dictates so should a girl of that age be so scantily attired in nothing but a diaper if she is having accidents and her parents (or those acting in loco parentis) are OK with it, too."

    "Shouldn't fairness dictate that if the 7-year old had an accident that she or he should be put in nothing but a diaper as well and changed out in the open, too? Saying a 7-year old shouldn't be just because the child is but two or less years older than the 5-year old just doesn't seem a good enough reason to give the 7-year old more concern for her or his modesty. I would prefer both be clothed over their diapers and changed in private. But that is no reason to treat each child differently."

    And lastly, you said:

    "if it is OK for a 7-year old, some might ask the question then why not subject a 13-year old, like me at the time, to being changed in front of guests and wear only a diaper in front of them as well? The 7-year old and I would both be of school age, yet both having had accidents. Where does one draw the line? Perhaps that's why I feel a 4 and 5-year olds shouldn't be wearing only a diaper and be changed in front of everyone. Because I know if I concede that point I'm admitting it would also be OK for a 7-year old school child to be in only a diaper. And with that I might as well admit then that my situation on that day back in 1999 was no different and that there was nothing wrong in putting me in just a diaper and changing me openly in front of guests in the same embarrassing fashion as the 5-year old boy."

    You agree that it is OK to make a 5yo wear just a diaper. You agree a 7yo should be treated the same. And you admit that if it is OK to make a 7yo wear just a diaper then "there was nothing wrong in putting me in just a diaper and changing me openly in front of guests" when you were 13.

    I think you should apologize and finally admit that you belonging in nothing but a diaper that whole day and that it was perfectly OK for you to have your diaper checked and changed as needed in front of guests.

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  16. Becky, Katie is 100% correct. You should have be in diapers the whole day.

    I read elsewhere that you said a teenager should be spanked on her bare ass if a younger child is punished that way.

    Why should diapering be any different?

    Can you honestly say it would have been fair for you to have seen that five year old boy naked and being diapered, when you were wetting yourself just as much or perhaps even more frequently that same day, if you were not stripped down and diapered just like he was?

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  17. Yes, Garth, I do think that if a parent spanks bare bottom (something I recognize as generally legal although I wish they wouldn't), that both a 5-year old and a 13-year old should be spanked in the same manner, even if guests are present.

    I did NOT say it would be fair for the five-year old boy to be diapered that day but not me. I DID say that I don't think that five-year olds should be changed in front of guests or be made to wear only a diaper.

    If it were appropriate to strip that 5-year old boy naked and change his diaper in front of guests then, yes, in that sense why should I be given any more modesty concerns than he?

    There is absolutely no reason to change a 5-year old boy's diaper in full view of guests but not change me in the same fashion when I was 13 just because of our age different.

    I just question the appropriateness of changing the 5-year old like that and making him remain in just a diaper for the day.

    There doesn't seem to be a clear consensus. If there were, I'd probably have to reluctantly admit otherwise.

    At the very least, couldn't both the boy and I have be required to wear our diapers under outer clothing and been changed as needed in private?

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  18. Becky, it appears you want people to tell you it was wrong that you needed to be diapered all because you felt ashamed and you want to be able to put that blame someplace other than you.

    Is it not reasonable for the parents of a 5 year old to put the child in diapers after one accident in the car? If not, then what about two? What if in addition to two accidents in the car the 5 year old had a recent accident at for example an amusement park and had even been diapered as recently as two months ago? Of course that scenario is what describes you but let's say for the sake of argument it was the boy who experienced those accidents instead.

    Are you really going to say it wasn't reasonable to put that 5 year old in diapers for the day given the numerous recent accidents?

    You do seem to agree that, since the parents of the 5 year old boy and your aunt were both of the same mind in that both of you children belonged in diapers, that if the reason for diapering you was the same, then you both should be diapered in the same way.

    Do you agree on that? Just a yes or no. It's a simple question.

    Now add to that you said, "I don't think even a pre-school 4 or 5-year old should be running around in front of extended family and guests in just a diaper. But if a boy of that age is having accidents and his parents (or those acting in loco parentis) are OK with it..."

    Do you acknowledge it's a parent or guardian's right (not whether you think it ok, but whether you think it permissible) to make a 5 year old boy wear just a diaper given the scenario I presented you? Yes or no?

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  19. Garth, I'm not asking people to only write and post if they think diapering me was wrong. I'd much rather be told by someone that they thought it was reasonable I was diapered if that's what they believe than for someone to tell me it wasn't reasonable to 'make me feel better.' If people's opinions are such that it essential makes me have to say, however embarrassing it is, that I belonged in diapers that whole day then that's what I'd have to admit.

    I'm not saying it is unreasonable to put a 5-year old boy in diapers if a boy had accidents in the car like I did. I said it was TOTALLY REASONABLE for Pamela to undress me and put me in just a diaper for the rest of the car ride to our destination.

    But, remember, there were no other clean clothes for me to wear - just the diaper. If the same situation existing for a 5-year old boy, it would ALSO be fair and reasonable to put him in only a diaper - and walk him into the house wearing on the diaper too just as I was - until clean clothes could be found for him.

    Yes, I reluctantly acknowledge that it's the right of a parent or guardian to decide if a 5-year old boy should be made to wear nothing but diaper around the house or at the house of relatives they are visiting - even in front of guests and even to have that diaper changed in front of guests - if he has been having recent accidents, especially if they've occurred that day.

    I don't think they should because at 5, unlike say 3, the boy is likely to feel quite ashamed and embarrassed. But for your "yes or no" choice, yes, I reluctantly acknowledge it's the parent's or guardian's sole right to decide whether the boy has to remain in just the diaper given the several accidents he'd have had that day under your scenario. Of course, to be fair, the same should apply to a 5-year old girl, even though that would mean she'd be topless wearing just a diaper. Being a girl that would be embarrassing, but at that age not really any more so than the boy, especially come changing time with people gathered around or watching.

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  20. Becky, since you finally admit this:

    "I reluctantly acknowledge that it's the right of a parent or guardian to decide if a 5-year old boy should be made to wear nothing but diaper around the house or at the house of relatives they are visiting - even in front of guests and even to have that diaper changed in front of guests - if he has been having recent accidents, especially if they've occurred that day. Of course, to be fair, the same should apply to a 5-year old girl, even though that would mean she'd be topless wearing just a diaper."

    Why are you reluctant to admit the same diaper care should be given to a 7 year old girl?

    You did say in your post:

    "Shouldn't fairness dictate that if the 7-year old had an accident that she or he should be put in nothing but a diaper as well and changed out in the open, too? Saying a 7-year old shouldn't be just because the child is but two or less years older than the 5-year old just doesn't seem a good enough reason to give the 7-year old more concern for her or his modesty. I would prefer both be clothed over their diapers and changed in private. But that is no reason to treat each child differently."

    If you want to add credibility to your statement that you want honest opinions, then you should repeat the first quote word for word with just changing "5-year old" to "7-year old."

    And to make no mistake about it, you should add that when your stepdad's sister-in-law Nicole was babysitting you at 7 and changed your diaper in front of her guests that there was nothing inherently wrong or inappropriate in her doing so. I even think that you owe it for honesty's sake to actually make a blog post about it

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  21. Garth, I kind of explained why I don't like the idea of making 7-year olds wear a diaper.

    But, OK. I will say the obvious as you requested but I'm not making a new post about it just because you think I should.

    It is obvious that Nicole had the right to change my diaper when I was in first grade, especially since my teacher had even been doing it at school. I just wished she hadn't done so in front of her neighbor's kids, which included boys in the two grades immediately ahead of me. But, yes, so you don't have to ask, I know it was her right to decide to do that, regardless of my embarrassment. I just wish she had changed my diaper in private. Maybe if she had, then maybe when I was 13 she would have at least changed my diaper in private, too (even though I don't think I should have been kept in one the whole day as she believed I should have).

    As for your contention I should be more clear on my thoughts about diapering 7-year olds:

    I reluctantly acknowledge that it's the right of a parent or guardian to decide if a 7-year old girl or boy should be made to wear nothing but diaper around the house or at the house of relatives they are visiting - even in front of guests and even to have that diaper changed in front of guests - if she or he has been having recent accidents, especially if they've occurred that day. Of course, to be fair, since the boy is wearing only a diaper so should the girl, too, even though that would mean she'd be topless by wearing just the diaper.

    Being a girl I know how embarrassing it was to be made to wear only a diaper at age 7. But I don't think I could honestly say any average boy of school age would be any more or less embarrassed than I was then when wearing just a diaper in front of guests, especially when it was changed with others watching.

    I would certainly prefer any child of that age to be clothed over their diapers as well as to be changed in private. But that is no reason to treat each child differently. Especially if they are siblings, cousins or both are being otherwise babysat by the same guardian(s) that day. In other words, if it so happens that the boy had been put in just a diaper because he had an accident, then the girl should be put in nothing but a diaper as well if she has an accident and vice-versa. I don't think it would be fair to an already embarrassed boy in just a diaper to be teased by a fully-dressed girl if that girl, by using the same 'accident' standard, should be in a diaper herself. Likewise if it was a fully dressed boy teasing a diapered girl. But it's not going to hurt the parent or guardian to change each child's diaper in private and to let them be dressed over their diaper.

    If there was otherwise any logical reason to change the children without regards to their privacy, I'd say "OK." But there isn't.

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  22. Good girl, Becky. See? That wasn't so hard, was it? You've admitted it's a parent or guardian's decision to decide if, when you were seven, you need to be dressed in just a diaper at a relative's house because you kept having recent accidents.

    I noticed on July 7th you told Katie:

    "If other kids 5+ years and of school age were in just a diaper then it would have made it fair to keep me in just a diaper, too. And since there were a couple kids in that 5-7 years range in just a diaper, including a girl, then the standard would have been fair to apply to me as well. I'll concede that, too. As their parents thought it was fair for them to be wearing only a diaper, then if I needed to be in a diaper it would have been fair for me to be ONLY in a diaper too and changed just like they were. . . . If I needed to be in a diaper like those 5-7 year olds and because they wore ONLY a diaper and were checked and changed in front of everyone, then I didn't deserve any more consideration for privacy then they did."

    You also made an interesting point:

    "I would certainly prefer any child of that age to be clothed over their diapers as well as to be changed in private. But that is no reason to treat each child differently. Especially if they are siblings, cousins or both are being otherwise babysat by the same guardian(s) that day. In other words, if it so happens that the boy had been put in just a diaper because he had an accident, then the girl should be put in nothing but a diaper as well..."

    OK. Instead of 7, let's say 8 or 9 year old boy had two accidents on the way to a relative's house (say one of Pamela's sons) and his parents or guardian decided he needed to be in diapers for the rest of the day because of the possibility of him having more accidents. You pretty much agreed it's the parents/guardian's decision, even to change his diapers in front of others and keep him in just a diaper. OK, sure, maybe you would "prefer" he be dressed in clothes over his diaper but you do agree it's the parents' choice, right?

    And in order to treat all the kids there that day fairly, you'd agree that a 9 year old girl, perhaps the boys' cousin, who has a history of having recent accidents should have to be put in just a diaper too? That's basically what you said with reference to 7 year olds:

    "Since the boy is wearing only a diaper so should the girl, too, even though that would mean she'd be topless by wearing just the diaper."

    You emphasized that:

    "I don't think it would be fair to an already embarrassed boy in just a diaper to be teased by a fully-dressed girl if that girl, by using the same 'accident' standard, should be in a diaper herself."

    Now you did admit:

    "I reluctantly acknowledge that it's the right of a parent or guardian to decide if a 7-year old girl or boy should be made to wear nothing but diaper around the house or at the house of relatives they are visiting - even in front of guests and even to have that diaper changed in front of guests - if she or he has been having recent accidents, especially if they've occurred that day. Of course, to be fair, since the boy is wearing only a diaper so should the girl, too, even though that would mean she'd be topless by wearing just the diaper."

    Would you be honest enough to repeat that comment, replacing 7 year old with 9 year old?

    Or do you feel a 9 year old deserves to be treated differently than a 7 year? If you do, then state that instead.

    I think you probably have figured out where this will lead you. But if you want credibility, you'll do as I suggested.

    Another thing, if one of Pamela's sons had wet his pants twice in the car that day, think he'd have been put in diapers? Would it have been fair to do so? And lead into the house in just a diaper? You said it was fair to do that to you at 13. You said the boys were 9 and 10?

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  23. Garth, first let me address the question of Pamela's sons.

    I don't know if she's ever put them in diapers on a car trip. But had the 9 or 10 year olds had an accident like me, they'd have been in the same situation: no clean clothes to wear. I suspect she'd have diapered them, too. It would have been fair in the sense that I had been. I don't know if she'd have made them take their shirts off but I suspect either boy would have protested that as unnecessary (which it would have been). But, yes, it would have been "fair" and reasonable to have diapered them and made them walk into the house with their diaper visible to all the guests until clean clothing could have been found to dress them in.

    No, I don't feel a 9-year old deserves to be treated differently than a 7-year old, whether it be concerned a bare-bottom spanking or being diapered.

    Yes, I can figure out what you are trying to lead me to admit. I wish you wouldn't, because you're only doing it to embarrass me.

    But as far as asking me to state the obvious per a 9-year old, fine. Here it is:

    "I reluctantly acknowledge that it's the right of a parent or guardian to decide if a 9-year old girl or boy should be made to wear nothing but diaper around the house or at the house of relatives they are visiting - even in front of guests and even to have that diaper changed in front of guests - if she or he has been having recent accidents, especially if they've occurred that day. Of course, to be fair, since the boy is wearing only a diaper so should the girl, too, even though that would mean she'd be topless by wearing just the diaper."

    I want to clarify something. When I told Katie that if any 5+ year olds at a family event were dressed in just a diaper and changed in front of guests (which I think is the right of the parents or guardian to do so, even if I think the kids should have clothes put on over the diaper), I did NOT mean to suggest that ANY and ALL school age children who might have had a few recent accidents should ALSO be put in just a diaper for the day. It's up to the parents or guardians of those children to decide whether their children should be put in a diaper, not the parents or the guardian of the child(s) already in diapers.

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  24. Becky, just to clarify what you clarified.

    When you said: "It's up to the parents or guardians of those children to decide whether their children should be put in a diaper, not the parents or the guardian of the child(s) already in diapers."

    I take it that you mean that the mother of the 5 year old boy who you saw in diapers being changed along side you shouldn't be able to decide to put you in just a diaper for the day. That decision should be left to Pamela and Nicole, your guardians for the day, right (which is what I think)? Not the mother of the 5 year old boy.

    Let me ask you this too. Do you think the 5 year old boy felt more or less ashamed of himself when he saw a girl over twice his age laying naked on the floor next to him getting her own diaper changed? Wouldn't applying the same standards for putting him in a diaper to you also make the other children in diapers that day feel more at ease by seeing that even a 'big girl' like you has to wear diapers sometimes?

    On spankings. I've read what your said about bare ass ones. You didn't like it when you got them but unless they're abusive you're OK with them.

    If you misbehaved that day, do you think it would have been OK if Pamela or Nicole stripped you down and gave you a bare ass spanking in front of all the guests? You said your stepdad was basically about to do the same thing a month or so earlier at a family event. As your guardians for the day (assuming your mom or stepdad was OK with it, if you think you need to clarify it), would Pamela or Nicole have been acting inappropriately had they done so or, even if you didn't like it, acting within bounds as your guardian for the day?

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  25. Garth, as for spankings, I don't favor nor do I believe that bare bottom spankings are the best way to discipline children, younger ones or teens. I've merely acknowledged that they are a legal disciplinary method in the U.S. Had Nicole or Pamela decided to discipline me that day by baring my bottom and spanking me in front of all the guests, yes, they'd have been "acting within their bounds" as my guardians for the day. That does not mean I felt it would have been right for them to do so, but merely within their purview to do so.

    Wow! I see we actually agree on something. No way should the mom of that 5-year old boy decide whether I was to be put in diapers and changed openly in front of people like she did to her son just to make her son feel more "at ease" by seeing an older child next to him put into diapers. If a child is going to be put in diapers that decision should only be made by the child's parents or guardians.

    I guess I can sort of see your point that younger children would feel less self conscience about their embarrassment at being clad in only a diaper in front of house guests if older children were in just diapers as well. But it's ridiculous to suggest that older children need to be shamed just to make younger ones feel less embarrassed.

    Applying similar standards for diapering is one thing. That's fair.

    But doing it to embarrass an older child to make a younger one feel less embarrassed is something entirely different. Children should only be put in diapers, especially if that's all they will be wearing around the house in front of guests, if they as an individual have reason to be put in a diaper. Not as some social experiment to make diaper-clad younger children also there that day feel more "at ease."

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  26. Becky, you replied that:

    "If a child is going to be put in diapers that decision should only be made by the child's parents or guardians."

    So it's now boiled down to a couple simple questions.

    Who were your guardians for the day, Becky?

    And, according to your own statement, whose decision was it to decide whether you needed to be put in a diaper, kept in just a diaper and changed with guests mingled near you?

    Was it your decision or was it Pamela's and Nicole's?

    Never mind the stuff about whether you thought it was fair.

    Stick to the point and issue a clear and concise comment if they had the right to decide you needed to be diapered, kept in just a diaper and changed like the other kids.

    You've already said:
    "I readily admit that it was entirely appropriate and totally justified and completely my fault that, at 13-years old, I had to spend several hours one day wearing nothing but a diaper and be seen by extended family like that (yes, topless and wearing nothing but a diaper)."

    Now, if you want to have any credibility, you should state the obvious that, regardless of you being 13, it was appropriate for Pamela and Nicole as your guardians for the day to be the ones to decide - not you - that you needed to be kept in just a diaper around the house that day in front of guests and have your diaper regularly checked and changed based on your history of having accidents and more importantly recent accidents, including several that day.

    I know you're too chicken to make a new post admitting that, because more people will see a new post than read all these comments.

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  27. Garth, I'm not disputing the fact that on that summer day back in 1999 my guardians were my stepdad's sister Pamela and his sister-in-law Nicole.

    I'm just saying I don't think I needed to be in diapers the whole day.

    In the car ride there? Yes. It was appropriate that Pamela put me in diapers.

    But I don't think it was necessary for me to be changed in front of everyone or to be kept in just a diaper for the whole day as Nicole would have preferred (although she did put me in just a diaper for a portion of the evening).

    What's so important about making a new post? People can read these comments if they want.

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  28. Becky, let's review what you have already stated and admitted. Then we'll see if you have the courage to re-state what you've already said in a new post and finally admit that you belonged in just a diaper that WHOLE DAY.

    "It was entirely appropriate and totally justified and completely my fault that, at 13-years old, I had to spend several hours one day wearing nothing but a diaper and be seen by extended family like that (yes, topless and wearing nothing but a diaper)...

    The reason for me being in a diaper to begin with was undeniably totally my fault. I had absolutely no one to blame but myself. The blame for my shame was mine - and mine alone.

    But still, there I was - less than two months shy of turning 14-years old - sitting in the backseat of my stepdad's sister's minivan on a summer day in 1999, wedged between her two grinning and giggling younger boys . . . wearing nothing but a diaper!

    Twice that day... I couldn't hold it between rest stops.

    I DID NEED to be in a diaper during the rest of the car ride. . . . It was reasonable and proper that I was diapered for the rest of the car ride to our destination. It didn't matter that I was 13 at the time. Nor did it matter that the only thing I had on was a diaper or that I had to sit wearing nothing but a diaper between two giggling, fully dressed boys who were both several years younger than me. Diapering me was the correct thing to do given the circumstances.

    I can't even fault the boys for teasing me. After all, I was a 13-year old girl just a handful of weeks away from entering 8th grade but who had badly peed herself - and was now wearing nothing but a diaper. How could anyone fault 9 and 10-year old boys from enjoying my shameful predicament?

    I had no one to blame for my embarrassment and my shame but myself. Nor should I have even expected to avoid additional embarrassment once we arrived at our destination. Though we had encountered delays because of traffic, my wetting myself was as much a reason for our tardiness as anything else. So not being able to slip inside clad as I was without being noticed was again basically my fault too, no one else's.

    It was perfectly reasonably that I had to get out of the minivan topless, exposed and wearing nothing but a diaper in full view of those around until we were inside the house. All that embarrassment and shame, up to that point, was the cause of me peeing myself. It was no one else's fault by mine.

    But what happened next? ... At that moment, I was in a wet diaper. And what happens to children in wet diapers?

    Pamela began changing my diaper - in full view of smirking guests and with even her 9 and 10-year old boys sitting down on the floor beside me, getting quite an educational view of a naked teenage girl at my expense. And Pamela? She simply carried on conversations with everyone in the room as if I were a toddler having my diaper changed.

    I don't think it was necessary for me to be changed in front of everyone or to be kept in just a diaper for the whole day as Nicole would have preferred (although she did put me in just a diaper for a portion of the evening).

    [But] if a child is going to be put in diapers that decision should only be made by the child's parents or guardians.

    On that summer day back in 1999 my guardians were my stepdad's sister Pamela and his sister-in-law Nicole.

    If other kids 5+ years and of school age were in just a diaper then it would have made it fair to keep me in just a diaper, too.

    And since there were a couple kids in that 5-7 years range in just a diaper, including a girl, then the standard would have been fair to apply to me as well. As their parents thought it was fair for them to be wearing only a diaper, it [was] fair for me to be ONLY in a diaper too and changed just like they were. I didn't deserve any more consideration for privacy then they did.

    And with that I might as well admit ... that there was nothing wrong in putting me in just a diaper and changing me openly in front of guests."

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  29. Becky, you don't even have the courage to simply re-state what you've said.

    You're the one who said only the parents or guardians should make the decision to put a child of school age into diapers.

    And they did make that decision.

    You asked the question in your blog post, "Was it really necessary later that day for seemingly the whole extended family of my stepdad's sister's in-laws gathering around to watch my diaper get changed?"

    The answer is an obvious yes. You belonged in diapers.

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  30. You're selectively choosing things that, yes, I indeed did say.

    I don't dispute a single word of what you quoted me above.

    But yo've edited out full sentences from them twisting them around to suite your belief that I belonged in diapers the WHOLE day in front of everyone.

    For example, you quoted me as saying:

    "I might as well admit ... that there was nothing wrong in putting me in just a diaper and changing me openly in front of guests."

    What I actually said was this:

    "Personally, I don't think even a pre-school 4 or 5-year old should be running around in front of extended family and guests in just a diaper."

    "My queasiness in reluctantly conceding that it's OK, even if I don't think they should, for parents (or those acting in loco parentis) making a 5-year old girl be dressed before extended family in nothing but a diaper and for her diaper to be changed openly in front of anyone who feels like watching is what to do about, for example, her 7-year old sibling or cousin? It really isn't that much of a leap in years. Shouldn't fairness dictate that if the 7-year old had an accident that she or he should be put in nothing but a diaper as well and changed out in the open, too? Saying a 7-year old shouldn't be just because the child is but two or less years older than the 5-year old just doesn't seem a good enough reason to give the 7-year old more concern for her or his modesty. I would prefer both be clothed over their diapers and changed in private. But that is no reason to treat each child differently.

    "But, if it is OK for a 7-year old, some might ask the question then why not subject a 13-year old, like me at the time, to being changed in front of guests and wear only a diaper in front of them as well? The 7-year old and I would both be of school age, yet both having had accidents. Where does one draw the line? Perhaps that's why I feel a 4 and 5-year olds shouldn't be wearing only a diaper and be changed in front of everyone. Because I know if I concede that point I'm admitting it would also be OK for a 7-year old school child to be in only a diaper. And with that I might as well admit then that my situation on that day back in 1999 was no different and that there was nothing wrong in putting me in just a diaper and changing me openly in front of guests..."

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  31. Becky,

    Did you encounter many kids 5 or older who wore diapers and were changed in front of other people growing up?

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  32. Not many. It was not common but of course for the child being diapered, like I was, you really don't think of it as, 'oh well, that kid's in diapers too.'

    I just don't understand what's so difficult for a parent or guardian to at least take a child into a bedroom for privacy.

    For me as a teenager that day, I was quite ashamed for people to not only see me in a diaper and being changed but for them to get the impression, I think unfairly, that I NEEDED TO BE IN ONE. Although, granted, the fact that I peed myself twice in the car on the way there didn't exactly help with a counter-argument to me being diapered.

    There were several kids that day over 5 who got diapered. Presumably, it wasn't a one-time thing for them either. That there were sure didn't make me feel any better or 'comfortable' with my own diapering.

    One of my girlfriends was diapered by her stepmom when we were about 12, but that was more of a punishment thing.

    I do think it happens more than people think. Like bare bottom spankings. Kids are quite ashamed for others to know things like that. Also, children of school age who are in diapers are almost always clothed over the diaper even if it's still apparent they are in a diaper (especially true for girls wearing short dresses or skirts) while in public. But when at home, in front of siblings, extended family or friends, modesty is often tossed out the window - especially if the diapering is for punishment purposes. Think about it. The humiliation of being in a diaper is the punishment; being SEEN in the diaper is part of that humiliation. I think that's abuse.

    There was something distrubing in the news a couple years ago about two women in Missouri who were guardians for a 7-year old boy and not only did they dress him in nothing but a diaper, but brought him to his karate class like that!

    I know what's it like to have a bunch of peers (many of my classmates in first grade) see you in just a diaper. So I feel for that boy and hope he copes with the continued embarrassment and shame ok. (in his case, he was receiving 'diaper punishment) From reading accounts of that you can help but feel that was probably only the tip of the iceberg of the humiliation that boy likely suffered.

    http://www.readoz.com/publication/read?i=1035497#page1

    As you can see from a different article, the public diapering part was 'sanitzed' from the story:

    http://articles.ky3.com/keyword/webster-county/recent/6
    http://articles.ky3.com/keyword/webster-county/recent/5

    This article says one of the women got 60 days in jail. Took nearly a year and a half to prosecute and convict her.

    An earlier article said the women could get up to 7 years if convicted of felony child abuse. So why the slap on the wrist? Who was the judge so voters could decide whether to keep that person on the bench? All very distrubing.

    http://articles.ky3.com/2011-03-27/child-abuse_29349452

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  33. Not saying what happened to me was abusive - because I wasn't being punished.

    Embarrassing and very shameful, but whether I agreed or not that I belonged in a diaper longer than just for the car ride, I can't argue with the fact that the REASON that I was diapered was that I had several accidents before the day was even half over.

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  34. The other bitch got probation and 'community service.'

    http://articles.kspr.com/keyword/probation

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  35. Why was your girlfriend diapered as punishment by her stepmom when you were about 12? What happened?

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  36. They got into a bad argument. Melanie's stepmom accused her of acting like a baby and said something like "If you're going to behave like a baby you're going to be treated like one." Her stepmom made her undress and then diapered her. She had to use the diaper, too. It lasted a whole day over a weekend. Melanie was pretty upset when school resumed on Monday. It took her a couple days before she could even talk about. Her stepmom was nothing but a mean witch.

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  37. Regarding Melanie's punishment, since you obviously are familiar with the event Becky perhaps you count recount what happened or possibly arrange to have Melanie tell the story from her perspective if you two are still in touch with each other. I'd be most interested in learning more as it certainly contrasts with your own story. As you can see by the 55 comments on your experience thus far, there is a lot of interest in this post. I'm sure others other than me would like to hear what happened.

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